“The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.”

 -Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)

 
From:                   J Hinol <sanebiker@yahoo.com>
To:                        me
Subject:              Post this one
Date:                    September 19, 2007

Well I've read your rant about Harleys and I noticed you are/were a cop. I just gotta say it figures. You like to spew and bluster without a whole lot to back yourself up with. 1) Harleys are great bikes. 2) Cops are the lowest blue collar link in the law enforcement chain.

How Do i know? I own a Jap sport bike (Yamaha) and a Harley. They both have different uses and both have their special strengths. I'm not going to go into an explanation because you are an IGNORANT LEO, as most are. You pretend to be an authority on motorcycles when you have no clue as to why people actually buy their Harleys, just like you spew your imaginary authority as a LEO.

I bet you have no clue that you can't prosecute. Why your cases get kicked out of court by rookie attorneys and why you can't do as you please without your States Attorney General taking your badge and kicking you to the curb. Only thing you can do is take out the trash like a good little boy. You can't render a verdict, you can't hand down a sentence, you can't pick a jury, you probably don't even know how much your hands are really tied. Did you know that in most states they take an intelligence profile and if you're TOO smart, they won't let you become a LEO? (The ones that do slip through usually go back to school , pass the bar and go to where the real power is.) Did you know they also take a personality profile to see if you like to spew and bluster so you can keep the uninformed supposedly intimidated and in line? Which brings us back to the subject of Harley. You bluster and spew without a clue. Harley is selling the experience of riding and owning a Harley and they're great riding bikes for long haul rides. I have/had relatives that are/were Deputy Attorney Generals, Supervising Attorney Generals, Federal Marshalls and FBI. My favorite relative was the one that used to be the Supervising Attorney General over the government section - the one that prosecutes ignorant LEOs such as yourself. (She's since been appointed to a different position)

Some LEOs are bad asses on the street, but when they get put in prison they are kept out of general population for a reason. The reason is because they aren't so tough as they like to pretend they are on the street. Just as you pretend to be an "authority" on what a motorcycle is or isn't. You may have the uninformed fooled, but those of us that own or have owned both know the truth. Post this and respond like the fool that you are. I dare you.

Note to the smart LEOs, 90% of you are great people doing and an honorable and hard job. I do appreciate you and I even go on Harley rides with some of you or will in the near future. I also acknowledge that the agencies do work together harmoniously for the common good, and some of you do move on to higher positions of authority. I also know that this twit that wrote the rant against Harleys is in the minority due to his general lack of intelligence as well as his lack of true understanding as to why Harley, with its limited line of product, outsells all four of the Jap bikes almost at a rate of 3 to 1.

 

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“Well I've read your rant about Harleys and I noticed you are/were a cop. I just gotta say it figures. You like to spew and bluster without a whole lot to back yourself up with. 1) Harleys are great bikes. 2) Cops are the lowest blue collar link in the law enforcement chain.”

After reading your two almost back to back emails, I would have to say that it is you who “like to spew and bluster without a whole lot to back yourself up.” You don’t refute any of my claims or debate positions with any concrete facts and what few “facts” that you do put forward are not facts at all but rather merely hear-say and urban myth. Any "data" that you present is also fictional in nature and easily disproved using fourth grade mathematics. You cannot defend your position logically or intelligently so you resort to broad generalizations and petty insults in order to try to shore up your already failed defense of your stated position. I also note that you really seem to enjoy using the words “spew” and “bluster” a whole lot as you use those two particular words quite often during your emails, so often, in fact, that I wonder what online reference source you managed to copy and paste them from to begin with. Those words aren’t often used in our pop culture driven, multimedia educated society today and since you own a Harley, I feel more than confident that you aren’t educated enough to have learned those words on your own.

Now, for what it is worth;

1) Harleys are not great bikes; they’re not even real motorcycles so please don’t kid your self. If you think that Harleys are “great” bikes, then it’s obvious that you don’t know a whole hell of a lot about “bikes” or what it takes to make them “great.”

2) I see where you refer to cops as the “lowest blue collar link in the law enforcement chain.” How maladroit. I prefer to think of LEOs as the “first line of contact in the law enforcement chain.” We do the dirty work that the social and political elements higher up either don’t want to do or simply can’t be bothered with. If you take cops or LEOs out of the picture, I seriously doubt that the lawyers and other higher levels of law enforcement in the legal system that you hold such admiration for would be very effective at reducing or stopping crime.


“How Do i know? I own a Jap sport bike (Yamaha) and a Harley. They both have different uses and both have their special strengths. I'm not going to go into an explanation because you are an IGNORANT LEO, as most are.”

Ignorant is as ignorant does, Hinol, and I’m going to let you prove that in spades with your own email.

So ... owning a Harley automatically makes you an expert in the areas of both motorcycles and law enforcement? I find that to be highly doubtful and your emails will only prove me right in my analysis. If anything, your Harley makes you dumber (if that could be possible and apparently it is).

You are correct when you say that you own a Japanese sport bike and a Harley, since the Harley obviously can’t be considered a motorcycle by anything other than the very loosest stretch of the definition. Please don’t kid your self (or actually tell anyone else) that you own two motorcycles because you do not own two motorcycles. You own one motorcycle and it was built in Japan. The other thing you own is a stupid toy built by and for idiots, nothing more.

A Harley is not a real motorcycle and the evidence is there to prove this. Harley quit making motorcycles when it bought itself out from under AMF and finally woke up to the nearly two decade old fact that the rest of the world had left it so far behind in regards to engineering, technology and production techniques that Harley could no longer keep up or compete with any other motorcycle manufacturer from any other country (not that they could do so to begin with before the buyout but I digress…). Once it was free of AMF, Harley did the only thing it could do; it reinvented itself in order to survive as a business entity (not survive as a motorcycle manufacturer because there is a difference). Harley quickly figured out that since it could not compete with modern motorcycles using copies of three decades old designs, it would have to quickly find a way to either sell three decade old technology for a huge profit or go out of business with a quickness. Then, one of the hillbillies had a four watt bulb dimly go off over his mottled skin draped cranium and the new Harley Davidson business philosophy was born:

"Let’s sell three decades old technology at a higher price than brand new technology and let’s tell people that our outdated junk is worth it because it’s Harley gawt-damn Davidson, we're American, and if the customer asks why they should pay lots of money for three decades old technology and obsolete engineering then tell them if they have to ask they wouldn’t understand."

That’s fucking brilliant (in a hayseed bumpkin not Einstein kind of way)!  But … while it is a great strategy if you're HD, as far as customers go you’d have to be a total moron to ever fall for it. Luckily for Harley Davidson, there seems to be an endless supply of morons in our great society (you’re irrefutable evidence of this fact).

Yes, it was a whole lot easier to sell their outdated junk if they spun it off not as a motorcycle but rather as a glamorous lifestyle full of officially licensed and endorsed lifestyle accessories. You don't ride a Harley Davidson so much as you wear it.  It was a whole lot easier to keep on producing copies of decades old designs rather than tool up for brand new models using modern technology. It was a whole lot easier to market a saleable myth and wrap it in a tasty sugar coated patriotic glaze that only an imbecile would bite into than it was to catch up with the rest of the motorcycle manufacturers and compete on an even basis. In other words, true to their long, pathetic company history, when there was hard work to be done Harley turned tail and took the easy way out by running from the problem.   When things didn't go their way, they chose to change the rules or get the rules changed in their favor.  Harley Davidson discovered that it didn’t really have to be number one if it could just claim to be number one and the marketing department took care of the rest. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but evidence suggests that you really can fool Harley owners all of the time.

What Harley did when it reinvented itself was to go from a third rate motorcycle manufacturer to a major up and coming fashion empire that would quickly rise to dominate the home decorating market and personal wardrobe choices for rednecks, pseudo-rednecks and proto-rednecks in the many decades to come. Billy Joel once sang “you can’t dress trashy until you spend a lot of money” in his hit song "It’s Still Rock and Roll to Me" and Harley has made a veritable financial killing off of that philosophy.

No one in their right mind would ever pay what a Harley is actually worth because the bikes are junk, they are tired old copies of designs that were barely considered contemporary when they were introduced three plus decades ago. How are today’s Harleys “copies”? That’s easy.  When the Sportster doesn’t change in 30 years of production, that’s not because it’s a "good design that didn’t need updating" ... No, it’s because each year the Motor Company is simply “Xeroxing” off another copy of the same bike that they made last year and the year before that and the year before that.  The stagnation that is evident in Harley Davidson's various product lines is the direct result of a company that doesn't change for the simple reason that it can't change.

I’ve always wondered why Harley Davidson chooses to utilize highly skilled Union employees for a job that, after a year, even a barely trained chimpanzee with palsy could accomplish blindfolded. If your design never changes, year after year, decade after decade, then it doesn’t take a great deal of skilled labor to assemble the same product because the learning curve may be steep at first but after the hill is climbed, it plateaus off nicely and stays steady for a long time with the only rise being a gentle bump ever now and then. Skilled labor would only be required if your design changed, if it evolved and if the designs you built next year or the year after that were different than the ones you built today or last year or the year before that.

The contemporary motorcycle companies have product lines which are dynamic, ever evolving. In the late 1970’s, over the course of a few years time, Honda turned its product line over nearly two and a half times when it went into a trade war with Yamaha (more on that later). Harley has a product line that is stagnant and the problem is not that Harley won’t build a different bike, it’s that Harley can’t build a different bike. Harley has spun their failure into market success. Obsolete technology is now “heritage” design.

When you accuse Harley of being obsolete, their reply is that they aren’t “obsolete”, they’re building “classic” designs that are rich in "heritage".  You see? It’s all in how you spin things and Harley, since they couldn’t build a contemporary motorcycle design, had to really spin their tired old designs (the only thing they could build) into marketable products. There is very little that is new under the sun at Harley Davidson. A Sportster is a copy of a Sportster is a copy of a Sportster. If Harley wants a new model of bike, they just swap parts from one model bike to another, raise the price a few thousand dollars, change the letters of the model around and voila! They have a “new” bike!  They really don't have a new bike but the fools who support them don't know that and that is what ultimately matters.

Oh, it’s not really a new bike, it’s just a copy of an old bike with different parts from another copy of another old bike. Only with Harley Davidson can swapping parts around your different models equate into creating entirely new product lines. Sometimes I honestly believe that Harley Davidson operates a lot like a white trash version of Legos.

Harley Davidson is junk, pure and simple, and by its own merits it would never sell except to morons who knew nothing about motorcycles and who were so stupid that you could use Jedi mind tricks on them. However, if we quadruple the price of the junk we sell (without changing one thing about it), then we put a certain mystique to it. A Harley can’t be junk if it costs so much, can it? Junk is cheap, people throw junk away but here we have a Harley that hasn’t changed in nearly 50 years and now it’s far more expensive than any import. So, logically, price determines quality, doesn’t it?

Logically, no.

Price does not determine quality and Harley Davidson is a prime example of that fact. A product is worth exactly what the company charges for that product and what you are willing to pay for that product. That’s business and the market will adjust naturally. If you want to pander the same old junk that you’ve always produced and you want to continue to survive, then you better find a way to disguise that junk from being worthless to being priceless. When we tell the rednecks that they can’t afford the junk that we are selling, when we price the junk out of mind and out of reach, then we have a transposition of values occur. When we price Harley Davidsons completely out of the reach of the people who kept the company alive for the first fifty years of their corporate life, when we start creating a lifestyle, when we market our products to doctors, lawyers, and other rich urbanites, suddenly the junk isn’t “junk.” No, it’s a trendy bauble and the latest “must-have” item in boring suburbia. After all, Harleys cost a lot of money and when was the last time that you heard of junk costing a lot of money?

Exactly.

Problem solved.

When does junk stop being junk? When people are willing to pay huge sums of money for it and that is exactly what Harley’s marketing department has done. I like to refer to what Harley Davidson has done with their product line as “alchemy”; they’ve taken tired old dog shit and turned it into 14k sparkling gold. Man, those wizards in Milwaukee are a crafty bunch, all smoke and mirrors and they take the wide eyed peasants money with no shame.

I'm curious, Hinol.  Why do you have a Yamaha and a Harley?

I own a 2004 Honda CBR600RR and my bike serves just fine for every imaginable type of riding with no problem and no regrets (except maybe off road riding which I do very little of and which the bike simply isn’t designed for). I see no reason to own a second bike (or third or fourth). How many bikes can you ride at one time? Do you measure your self worth and your position in society by the number of bikes that you own and what type of bikes those bikes are? Do you somehow become a better rider in direct proportion to the number of bikes that you own? Most Harley owners think that they do and they are incomplete without their Harley Davidson; they were nothing before they owned a Harley Davidson yet somehow they are something much better now that they own a Harley Davidson.

They are complete.

The problem is that none of the Harley owners recognize the fact that it wasn’t the person who changed; it was the bike that changed the person. The sad thing is that the change is nearly instantaneous, lasts only temporarily and vanishes almost as soon as the bike is sold (or more likely repossessed). A Harley Davidson is like a sheep in wolf’s clothing, it lets the meek pretend to be the strong but only as long as the costume is worn. Once the costume comes off, the meek revert back to their normal everyday, boring selves.

Why do you need a Yamaha and a Harley?

My guess is that deep down inside, you realize that you need the Yamaha as a reliable form of backup transportation. Of course, you’ll probably tell your Harley riding friends that no matter how fast your Yamaha sport bike is, it still won’t hold a candle to your Harley (at least in your particular world of make-believe) or that your Harley is a much better built bike and they’ll agree with you (not because you are right (you aren’t) but because it’s what they want to hear and its what they want you to say in order to make them feel better about their own purchases from The Motor Company). Ignorance has some of the same attributes as strength and the primary comparison between strength and ignorance is that both of these attributes grow when in the presence of large numbers. Ignorance is also like a contagion, it easily spreads in small target groups, rapidly infecting these groups and spreading on to form larger groups. Fortunately for you, the kind of stupidity that you’ve caught isn’t terminal, at least not in the short term; it’s main symptom (besides making your life a living hell) is that your stupidity is glaringly annoying to everyone around you (unless they too are infected with the same thing you have at which point you’ll all just get along famously). There’s only one cure for ignorance, Hinol; education and I’m afraid that you’re in very short supply of that commodity. The bad news is that you can’t buy education out of a catalog and you’ll never find it offered at any Harley Davidson dealership as education is the last thing that Harley Davidson ever wants any of its customers to have, let alone acquire or come into contact with for very long. An educated Harley Davidson customer is an ex-Harley Davidson customer.

So you own a Yamaha and a Harley Davidson. Perhaps if you had bought your Yamaha first, you wouldn’t have needed to own two bikes. When it comes to owning anything produced by Harley Davidson, having a backup mode of transportation is pretty much a prerequisite (either you need to own a real motorcycle to pick up the slack or you need to have a pickup truck and / or a low deck trailer to retrieve your Harley when it strands you). However, seeing as how you own both a Yamaha sport bike and a Harley Davidson, I can easily tell which “motorcycle” you’ll be bragging about owning the most against the reality of which motorcycle will be the more reliable bike (and the one you’ll find yourself riding most of the time). It is a very good thing that you have a Yamaha; at least that way you can sleep well at night knowing that you have dependable, reliable transportation for all the times that your Harley breaks down.

Special strengths?

Please.

You honestly claim that your Harley has “special strengths?”

Hinol, if your Harley really has any “special” strengths, then those “strengths” are “special” in the same way that “education” can be thought of as being “special.” Harley Davidson isn’t a “motorcycle”, rather it’s a two-wheeled version of the short yellow bus.

“You pretend to be an authority on motorcycles when you have no clue as to why people actually buy their Harleys, just like you spew your imaginary authority as a LEO.”

Let me get this right … you, a Harley owner, are going to preach to me about pretending to be something that I am not? (Insert sound of roaring, side-grabbing, chair rocking guffaws). Oh, the hypocrisy! Hinol, if anyone is an authority on pretending to be something that they are not and of living a make-believe life then it is fools like you; the typical uneducated, uninformed, media-driven, nonsense-believing, clueless Harley owner. So much of your life is composed of nothing but pretending and make-believe. You own a make-believe bike produced by a company that specializes in selling redneck fashion and pre-packaged, store-bought make-believe in a convenient carry-home size. You live in a pre-fabricated fantasy world where you start to pretend every time you dress yourself in the company logo and every time you hop on your Harley and go for a pose.  You're so stupid that you have to be spoon-fed everything that you believe and you regurgitate it on demand, word for word.

A pair of bumper stickers that we'd all like to see and ones
which go far in maintaining the aspect of "truth in advertising."

Much to your chagrin, I know far more about motorcycles and the history of motorcycles than you do (or apparently ever will). That much is evident by my website and from the lack of motorcycle knowledge which you present in your two emails. I also know far more about Harley Davidson (the company, the history of the company, their few accomplishments and their many, many failures) than you and most people like you do. The fact is that I am unwilling to overlook Harley’s failure as a company while you openly embrace it. Apparently, you’re willing to forgive a whole lot more than I am but then when you’re desperate to ride a particular brand in order to compensate for what God did not give you when you were born then I guess you’ll turn a blind eye to most anything (even common sense).

You see, it is from studying motorcycles (all types, throughout the last 120 years of motorcycle history) and from studying the history of The Motor Company that I reached the informed, researched, well thought out conclusion that I would never own a Harley Davidson product. Once you know the history of Harley Davidson, once you step back and analyze the behavior of the company, you will rapidly come to the conclusion that there is no way in hell you would ever support such a bunch of habitual losers and dullards. I know The Motor Company, I know their history and I know their product, thoroughly. I’ve done my research, years and years of research and had countless experiences of dealing with the guttural retards that glorify Harley Davidson and support its ludicrous product line.

Yes, motorcycles are a hobby of mine and since I understand their development (from the first steam and coal powered examples of the breed built in the late 19th century) up to modern times, I can firmly see that one company and one company alone stands out from all the others and that company stands out because it has a long history of not just failure but repeated failure on many levels including managerial, competition, forward thinking, engineering and technology. One company has made bad decision after bad decision, a long line of bad decisions that relegated that company consistently to last place and almost caused the death of the company. One company has consistently failed at organized competition, even when that company pushed to have the rules changed in favor of its entries into that competition. When the company does actually compete in organized competition then none of the technology that it uses on the track ever makes it to the models it sells for the street. One company alone has consistently run from its competitors, has consistently made excuses for its lack of progress and has consistently gone downhill in an ever increasing downward spiral when it actually was a motorcycle manufacturer. One company believes that styling is direct replacement for engineering. One company alone believes that power is a byproduct of sound. One company alone has survived not because it was successful, but because it knew how to beg and plead for its life and when it was given a second chance (when other companies, far better companies, were allowed to go bankrupt and die a natural corporate death) it took that chance not to do the American thing of catching up and surpassing its competition but rather it reinvented itself from a motorcycle manufacturer to a fashion empire. One company survives today not because it excelled, but because the powers that be took pity on it and spared it from a richly and justly deserved fate. One company alone survives today on national pity instead of corporate progress. One company alone is in business today not because it built a great product or because it kept up with and surpassed all of its competition, no, one company is in business today because it failed time and time again, because it was bought out first by a company known for making bowling balls and later by itself (when facing bankruptcy due to its poor business decisions and lack of foresight). One company alone has used a needless tariff begged from the American government, a tariff that actually rewarded this company’s long string of failures and fiscally punished US citizens who chose to purchase imported quality over domestically produced junk. One company alone, in order to protect itself, punished the very people it claims to owe such patriotic allegiance to. One company alone today has been left so far behind by the rest of the world that it is physically impossible for it to catch up now or ever with any of the contemporary motorcycle manufacturers. One company alone faced the realization that they could not sell their lackluster product if they continued to exist as a motorcycle manufacturer. One company alone went from producing motorcycles to trendy fashion accessories and became a roaring market success in a niche that isolates them from having to directly compete with any of their once-peers.

That one company is Harley Davidson and it is the only company in the world that I know of that has gotten filthy rich from selling post dated obsolescence.

Also, to your dismay, I fully understand the reasons why people like you buy Harleys (and have documented these reasons on my site over the years). There are many reasons why people like you buy Harleys but the most common reasons are:

• Ignorance of the true history of The Motor Company (or the very real need to ignore it)
• Absolute gullibility bordering on imbecility.
• A very real need to compensate.
• The inability to think for their own self.
• The inability to dress their own self.
• The inability to exist as an individual or to stand alone on their own.
• The very real need to belong in a group of similar like-minded dullards.
• Confusion on what exactly it means to be an "American."
• Belief that bigger is better, heavier is faster and old is new.
• Belief that "freedom" and / or a reputation can be bought or sold through a commercial venue.
• The need to buy an "experience" that could otherwise be had for free.
• The inability to differentiate clever market spin from actual truth.
• The willingness to accept common myth and hear-say over established or historical fact.
• The willingness to pay four times the price for one quarter the product.
• An inability to discern quality and craftsmanship.
• A willingness to substitute fashion for safety.
• A willingness to substitute styling for engineering.
• A willingness to substitute noise for power.
• The inability to understand the value of money or how money works.
• The need to turn their body into a walking billboard for a company that actually charges them to advertise for it.
• The need to support critical corporate failure, failure at competition and managerial retardation based on patriotic guilt, a false sense of national fairness and misplaced / misunderstood national pride.

... and perhaps the best reason of all for owning a Harley Davidson:

• A huge surplus of disposable income tragically paired with a glaring deficit of common financial sense.

Yes, there are many reasons for needing a Harley and those reasons usually lead directly to the poor soul talking their self into actual ownership (an event that usually leads to bitter tears and deep misery). I wonder how many of these reasons apply to you, Hinol?  Probably a lot more than you’re either willing to admit or, truth be known, are smart enough to realize.

“I bet you have no clue that you can't prosecute. Why your cases get kicked out of court by rookie attorneys and why you can't do as you please without your States Attorney General taking your badge and kicking you to the curb. Only thing you can do is take out the trash like a good little boy. You can't render a verdict, you can't hand down a sentence, you can't pick a jury, you probably don't even know how much your hands are really tied.”

Bah.

What a boorish little paragraph full of misinformation and outright banal stupidity. That one paragraph alone proves that you don’t understand the first thing about law enforcement or the legal system.

I wonder …

Other than piss and moan or constantly complain and belittle law enforcement at every chance you get, do you actually give anything, unselfishly, back to the community in which you live?

Probably not.

In all likelihood, you are one of those semi-educated, self righteous suburbanites who think that they are somehow owed something simply by virtue of being a “tax payer” or by who you think you know in some lofty political office. Do you honestly believe that, as an individual, you can wield control of “the system” to your heart’s content? Do you think that the law bends to you and around you as you desire? If you do, then you’re not only ignorant but you’re delusional as well and that can’t make for a very happy life for you (or for those unfortunate enough to be around you for long periods of time).

“Did you know that in most states they take an intelligence profile and if you're TOO smart, they won't let you become a LEO? (The ones that do slip through usually go back to school, pass the bar and go to where the real power is.) Did you know they also take a personality profile to see if you like to spew and bluster so you can keep the uninformed supposedly intimidated and in line?”

Outstanding!

I love this!

Folks, you simply cannot create dumb of this depth and magnitude! You simply cannot make up or create stupidity as grand as this! No, it has to occur naturally for it to be this pure and mirthful.

Let’s review your stupidity thus far, shall we, Hinol?

First, you claim that all cops are stupid and then you make a claim that in most states there are actually legal measures and social protocols enacted to make sure that only the dumbest people ever get to be cops? Wow. If you honestly think about it, that type of law enforcement officer selection does seem to be contrary to the greater needs and good of society and a bit counter productive to the overall welfare of civilization in general, now doesn’t it? After all, if you want to legally empower a large group of people drawn from various backgrounds to move around in society at all hours of the day and night, to enable this group of people to go anywhere within their jurisdiction, to be armed with high powered weapons, to be given the ability to enforce the local laws and granted the permission to use lethal grade force if required in the most dire of circumstances, then logically and ideally you would want these people to be pretty damn smart to begin with (and to only get smarter as the years and experience mounted). If you want to empower a group of people to protect you, your possessions, and your family then wouldn’t you want those people to be smart?

Intelligent?

Educated?

Logically you would but since nothing within your email could be considered “logical” it’s easy to see where you would present something ridiculous like that.

Real power?

I’m not interested in power, Hinol, social or political. I’m interested in making a difference. Give me a job on the street, tell me what you want to accomplish and it will get done; leave the political meandering and social maneuvering to people who want “power” or political office. I have no time for politics or social enterprising. I have no time for wowing the constituents or for photo opportunities or for empty campaign promises. The course of my life isn’t determined by polls or popular opinion and in case you haven’t learned it yet, I don’t care in the least what other people think of me. I didn’t pin on a badge to win a popularity contest or get on the cover of a magazine (though I’ve been featured in a few). I pinned on a badge to make a difference, not globally, not nationally, not even on a state wide level, but just where I live. I pinned on a badge to make a difference in the community where I live. What happens outside of where I live, I could really care less. Let other people who are strong like me rise to the occasion and if they see a problem, let them take on a badge, work hard and give their blood, sweat and tears to make a difference in their locale.

Making a difference doesn’t require power, Hinol. Making a difference merely requires action and it starts with a single person willing to stand up and do the work that others can’t (or won’t).  I made a difference way back in 1993 when I first started making fun of people like you.  I made a difference in 2000 when I took an oath and accepted a badge.  The difference between us (besides about 50 IQ points in my favor) is that I make a difference while you are nothing but an intolerable, uneducated, misinformed, self-deluded whiner.

“Which brings us back to the subject of Harley. You bluster and spew without a clue. Harley is selling the experience of riding and owning a Harley and they're great riding bikes for long haul rides.”

Bluster and spew, again, by virtue of being copy and pasted, again. Where did you find those two words, Hinol? Was it on www.bigwordsforsmallminds.com or a similar website? Everything about your life is a copy of something that someone else has already created; you have no originality and that is a tragic failing on your part as a basic human being.

Yes. Harley Davidsons are great riding bikes for long haul rides, especially since most of those “rides” occur at the end of a “long haul” on a trailer behind a truck or SUV (also decorated in loads of HD decals and paraphernalia). You’re still erroneously assuming that a Harley Davidson is a motorcycle, which, as we have already discussed, it most certainly is not. Calling a Harley Davidson a “motorcycle” is like calling the mechanical horse that the children ride at Walmart a “thoroughbred.” It may look like a thoroughbred (if you’re half blind and you’ve never seen a real thoroughbred before) but ultimately it’s not going to get you very far, you’re going to have to pay someone else to ride it and if you ever climb on top of it and tell people that you’re a “real cowboy” they’re going to laugh at you (that is, unless they’re the people standing in line behind you, wearing cowboy outfits with rolls of quarters in hand waiting their turn at being something they are not).

Yes. Harley Davidson prides itself in selling an “experience,” an experience that they charge for and an experience that, truth be known, you could get for free from any other motorcycle manufacturer except Harley Davidson. The Harley Davidson “experience” isn’t really about riding so much as it is about paying a company so that you can be retarded. Harley selling an “experience” is like the weatherman charging you for having a sunny day. It’s something that you could have on your own, if you understood that you could have it on your own. Harley doesn’t sell anything that you couldn’t get on your own, unless of course you count in the retardation at which point it would be really stupid to know that you signed up and paid good money just so you could be part of a greater dumb. This moron touted “experience” is nothing more than a prepackaged lifestyle with finite boundaries and a hefty price tag attached. Yes, you can have the Harley experience but only if you agree to all of the stipulations that go with it and after all, you have to realize that the “experience” that you are having is someone else’s idea of what kind of experience you should have. There’s a reason why it’s called the “Harley experience” and not “Hinol’s experience.” You’re paying to rent someone else’s idea of how you should live and ride and think and act. Normally you should be able to do all of these things on your own but I forget that the average American isn’t what they once were and for several hundred thousand people like you, you’ve gotten to the point where you have to be led by the nose in order to have a life.

You’re renting a meme and it’s a blatantly ignorant one at that. Harley Davidson is a meme and the scary thing is that it’s a highly contagious, infectious meme that spreads through ignorance and desperation. What is a “meme” you may ask? I won’t get into that here but you can look it up if you want. Once you realize what a “meme” is, you’ll be a little bit smarter in life because you will recognize Harley Davidson for one aspect that it is.

The “Harley Davidson experience.” Only Harley Davidson is vain enough to think that you should actually pay them extra for the right to ride and be seen on their lackluster product. Only Harley Davidson charges you to advertise for them by making you pay to slather your body head to foot in their logo and only you are stupid enough to do it. Other manufacturers assume that you’re an advanced enough human being to take their product and carve your own experiences from the fabric of life. Harley assumes you’re too stupid to do this for yourself and that you’ll be willing to pay handsomely if someone takes you by the hand and shows you how to have a life (or rather their idea of what your life and ideal experience should be like). Other manufacturers invite you to enjoy the freedom of the open road while Harley Davidson takes that very same open road and sets up a toll booth with a little American flag waving proudly so you don’t feel so bad about being bent over the toll gate post and fleeced like the sheep that you are.

Since Harley Davidson could no longer produce motorcycles that were competitive in a global market, they had to learn how to market something else so they marketed the “experience” of riding on one of their ridiculously outdated products. Harley Davidson isn’t stupid. Any company that realizes it is about to die yet rises from its own ashes, phoenix-like, to reinvent itself and go on to become a huge commercial success (while becoming a sad parody of everything it once stood for) requires brains on the part of the company and complete gullibility on the part of the customer base. Harley is just lucky that their business problems occurred at a time when a large segment of the American populace could be considered as little more than media-driven sheep. In other words, Harley’s success is mostly from having the really good luck to be in the right place at the right time. As the average American became dumbed down, acquired a shorter attention span, an even shorter memory and became a needy, clueless individual, Harley’s downward spiral reversed and the company rose to what it is today. Losers who were in far worse shape than Harley Davidson grabbed onto the failing Motor Company like it was a rock in a stormy sea and together, they buoyed up The Motor Company. Harley’s success is because when it fell, it didn’t hit rock bottom, instead it landed on a huge and thick layer of losers that acted like a springboard to swing its financial woes around.

Harley’s success then and now depends solely on the abject stupidity of the American consumer. The dumber the average American is, the more successful Harley Davidson is. If America starts returning to its roots, if Americans start becoming individuals again (rather than media driven sheep), if Americans start questioning what they are told instead of accepting at face value everything that is spoon fed to them, then Harley Davidson will realize that the house of straw that it has built will come tumbling down in no time at all.

Harley Davidson sells a trademarked lifestyle, nothing more. What The Motor Company wants you to believe (what they need you to believe in order to survive financially) is that there is no way that you can get this specific experience anywhere else but from riding a Harley Davidson which is, of course, not only ridiculous but also completely untrue. It’s a convenient lie that The Motor Company tells in order to keep the corporation from going bankrupt (again). Lenin once said; “If you tell a lie often enough it becomes truth.” Harley Davidson is a prime example of that way of thinking. Sometimes I honestly think that they’ve spun so many white lies that they truly believe their own alternate history.

The truth is that you can get a far better, far richer experience for far less money when you ride an import motorcycle. Contrary to long standing trailer park mythology, Harley has no monopoly on generating motorcycling experience, on selling Freedom™ or of comodifying any other intangible aspect of being either a motorcyclist or an American. It is laughable to believe that in order to be a “real” American, in order to be considered a “true” American that you are required to buy products from and thereby support what can arguably be called one of the biggest failures in American management and manufacturing.

I didn’t realize that it was “American” or “patriotic” to pander to and support failure but we have to believe that bit of indignant nonsense if Harley Davidson wants to continue to survive. Harley Davidson has spun failure into success, losing into winning, poor engineering into “heritage” and riding into a trendy lifestyle. What the new Harley Davidson buyer does not realize is that on a $20,000 Harley Davidson, The Motor Company is selling you a $3000 bike and charging you $17,000 for the right to be seen on it.

“I have/had relatives that are/were Deputy Attorney Generals, Supervising Attorney Generals, Federal Marshalls and FBI. My favorite relative was the one that used to be the Supervising Attorney General over the government section - the one that prosecutes ignorant LEOs such as yourself. (She's since been appointed to a different position).”

Oh, I do so like this part of your email because essentially what you are saying is that you have / had relatives who are / were far more successful in their lives than you currently are / ever will be. You chastise my profession (what little you know of it) yet you never tell us what your profession is. My oh my, aren’t we a jealous little uppity fidget? I smile at how you base your own importance and self worth not only on what you own (your Harley) but also on the success of the small handful of non-EBT card carrying members in your immediate family.

I find your justification for existence not only trite but sad in a pathetic, pitiable sort of way. No wonder you own a Harley… Alone you are nothing without someone else or something else to lean on, without someone else or something else to support you and build you up from the natural nothing, the natural zero, that you are.

“Some LEOs are bad asses on the street, but when they get put in prison they are kept out of general population for a reason. The reason is because they aren't so tough as they like to pretend they are on the street.”

Here we go again, a Harley owner accusing other people of pretending to be something that they are not ...

Yes, there is a reason why LEOs who are sent to prison are kept out of general population but it’s not because they were pretending to be bad asses on the street. The reason why a LEO who commits a crime and goes to prison is kept out of general population is because the other criminals won’t accept that LEO as a common criminal; they’d still treat the LEO as a cop and they would kill them if given a chance. Once a cop, always a cop, even if you do something bad enough to land you in prison for the rest of your life. Cops know this, criminals know this and the justice systems know this but strangely, you (who profess to know a great deal about the legal system or at least more than I do…) didn’t know this simple fact.

This is just another example of how you really are totally ignorant when it comes to all things law enforcement and especially when dealing with different aspects of the legal system. You claim to be knowledgeable on the subject, you claim to have relatives in high positions in the legal system but you have yet to prove you actually know anything about the legal system.

“Just as you pretend to be an "authority" on what a motorcycle is or isn't. You may have the uninformed fooled, but those of us that own or have owned both know the truth. Post this and respond like the fool that you are. I dare you.”

Be careful what you ask for, Hinol, because you just may get your wish.

Anytime a Harley owner accuses me of pretending to be something that I am not, I have to laugh way down deep inside because the hypocrisy is blatant. You haven’t got a clue about the truth because you own a Harley and that’s proof enough right there of your tragic failure at ever being considered an intelligent, educated, original or imaginative human being. If life was just one long episode of “Survivor” then your fellow cast members would have long ago voted you off of the big island that we like to call the “human race.” If you actually knew what the truth was, you would never have bought a Harley in the first place. You say that “those of us that own or have owned both know the truth.”

I couldn’t agree more.

Some of my favorite (and most frequent) emails are from people who owned imports and for one reason or the other, they broke down and bought into the hype of Harley Davidson. These reversal of fortunes are never pleasant to read about but they usually have a silver lining. Almost without fail, all of the people who “knew better” but still went ahead and bought a Harley Davidson discovered too late that the whole Harley “experience” really is just a myth and that for all the showboating and market spin, riding a Harley is an experience that they would rather they never had. Yes, after finding out the truth of what a ridiculous piece of junk HD really is, the people who could do so often sold their HD. These ex-Harley Davidson owners were just as happy as could be to go back to an import motorcycle where they enjoyed a lower price and higher build quality, better engineering, advanced technology and avoided the social stigma that comes with owning a Harley Davidson. Among these emails which I receive is one universal thread; the promise that the ex-Harley Davidson owner will never, ever, ever buy another HD in their life.

For some people, they have to learn the hard way but the good news is that once is generally all it takes to learn from their mistakes and never repeat them. There is an old saying that a cat will walk on a hot stove only once but after that, it will never walk on a cold stove again either. The same could be said of ex-Harley owners. Once bitten, twice forewarned. Some people understand the truth without having to experience it first hand, others must learn the hard way. That’s life.

The real truth is that there are two kinds of riders in the world; those who own a Harley Davidson and those who know better. We all make mistakes but unlike HD, most of us can’t turn our mistakes into financial windfalls at the expense of idiots so we do the best that we can, we learn from our mistakes and we become smarter for it. If anyone has the uninformed fooled, it is Harley Davidson and you’re one of the weak minded sheep who bought into the made-to-order patriotic fairy tale, Hinol.

“Note to the smart LEOs, 90% of you are great people doing and an honorable and hard job. I do appreciate you and I even go on Harley rides with some of you or will in the near future. I also acknowledge that the agencies do work together harmoniously for the common good, and some of you do move on to higher positions of authority.”

Ah, yes.

Here’s another one of my favorite parts of our exchange. You spend your entire email belittling and insulting all law enforcement officers any way that you can at every chance you can get. You even go as far as claiming that there are social and political protocols in place to ensure that only the dumbest people in society ever get to be law enforcement officers and then you have the unmitigated gall to finish your email off with a transparently weak apology intended to make other LEOs think you haven’t really been doing your best to insult everyone who wears a badge. If the only way you could ever defend your position against me was to make broad generalizations and then try to apologize to 90% of the people that you had just insulted … you really are a flaming newbie when it comes to logical, intelligent debate. Also, it just goes to prove that you have nothing to back your defense up with (but then we all knew that when you entered this debate).

Do you really think that any self respecting LEO would want to go on a ride with someone like you? Do you think that we (LEOs) can’t see through shallow, transparent, little people like you? We (LEOs) see your pathetic kind coming miles away. You only buddy up to us when you want something, when you need us or when we can do something for you. The rest of the time, people like you treat us like social pariahs and lepers. You tell your children that if they don’t behave that the cop will either shoot them or arrest them and take them to jail. Behind our back (but always within earshot) you will tell your children that if they don’t stay in school or go to college that they’ll have to be a cop. Your ignorance of law enforcement gives you a falsely elevated self righteousness over the people who are sworn to serve and protect you. We know your kind all too well and you’re not fooling any LEO, not even the newest rookie (but the genuine effort you put into your failed charade is rather humorous to behold).

You couldn’t be any more utterly pathetic if you tried and believe me, you’ve certainly tried your damnedest to be as utterly pathetic as you possibly could be in your emails. What is really funny is that you’ve succeeded beyond your wildest dreams in that regard. Yes, you actually went and made me smile there with that last bit and smiling is something I don’t often do when I’m dealing with little minded, uninformed, uneducated, ignorant people like you. Ignorance ceased being cute and amusing a long time ago (especially in adults) but you’ve somehow brought out a rosy tint to your own special variation of this intellectual malady.

Your first mistake about LEOs is assuming that being a LEO is a profession, Hinol. You erroneously assume that being a LEO is a blue collar job populated with the lowest paid lowest common denominator in our society. Nothing could be further from the truth. Law enforcement is not a profession; it is a noble calling and far more "American" than anything produced by Harley Davidson.

Those who can … police.  Those who can't lock their doors at night and program "911" into the speed dial button on their phone.

In hindsight, Hinol, perhaps you are right when you declare that you will go on future rides with law enforcement officers.  After all, LEOs have a special place for really stupid people to ride with them and special place is usually the back seat of their unit with the final destination being jail.  We (LEOs) let stupid people like you ride with us all the time, in fact, we like to ferry them back and forth, back and forth from where we pick them up to the local jail.  We do it several times a day and all night long because it is our duty to keep stupid people (like you) off the street and from making trouble for the smarter people in society.

“I also know that this twit that wrote the rant against Harleys is in the minority due to his general lack of intelligence as well as his lack of true understanding as to why Harley, with its limited line of product, outsells all four of the Jap bikes almost at a rate of 3 to 1.”

Yes, dear reader, I have saved the absolute best for last!

Here is more irrefutable proof that Harley owners (and Hinol here in particular) are preprogrammed hillbilly automatons who regurgitate the market spin and advertising myths that they have been spoon-fed by the dealer.

If I am in a minority, Hinol, then it is because I’m intelligent, educated (I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Business), I have original thoughts that I can back up with hard fact and conclusive history and I form my own opinions based on research and established data. If I am in a minority, it is because I am not a pop culture driven, media educated sheep, a patriotic dullard or a ridiculous redneck fashion lemming. In other words, I am an informed consumer which means that I don’t pay hard earned money for junk, even if that junk is considered “trendy” or fashionable. Unlike you, I don’t need a Harley Davidson in order to be complete or validate my existence. I am known and admired for who I am and for what I believe in; not for what I own or who I advertise for.

Twit?

You called me a twit. 

How decidedly apropos that you should bring that particular term into the argument at this time!  Perhaps, in the future, before you call someone a "twit" you will in turn take great steps to insure that it is not you, yourself, who is the twit. 

So, you think that Harley Davidson, with its limited line of product, outsells all four of the Japanese companies by a 3 to 1 margin?

Holy torrential downpours of molten stupidity!

You have the audacity to call me a twit and say that I have a general lack of intelligence but when it comes down to it, I’m still far smarter than you because I had the good sense to get on the Internet and pull up the corporate year end financial reports for both Honda and Harley Davidson (from each company’s official website, nonetheless) then compare the figures that each corporation officially disclosed for the last complete fiscal year (2006). After I had researched what I needed to know, I discovered (without much surprise) that once again you have simply thrown out yet even more erroneous (and one might even go as far as saying utterly fictitious) information but since you're getting your "facts" from a fairy tale, accuracy is hardly something to be expected.

Here’s where it’s about to get real ugly, real quick, Hinol and the only person you can blame for this is yourself.

In 2006, Harley Davidson produced a total of 349,200 bikes (including Buells) to be sold both domestically and worldwide. Let me say that again, for the 2006 fiscal / model year, Harley Davidson produced a TOTAL of 349,200 bikes, according to their financial report for the year end.

349,200 units.

Total.

Period.

In 2006, Honda produced a total of 10,271,000 motorcycles, out of which only / just 614,000 were sold in North America (including Mexico). Now, I understand that Harley owners are naturally stupid and inherently don’t really understand math (which is one of the primary reasons why you own a Harley in the first place) but even you can’t be dumb enough to believe that 349,200 (HD) is 3 times as much as 614,000 (what Honda sold in America) let alone three times as much as 10,271,000 (what Honda sold in the entire world). Actually, maybe you do believe that since after all, you did say that “Harley, with its limited line of products, outsells all four of the Jap bikes almost at a rate of 3 to 1.”

Your words, not mine ... twit.

Now, because I understand that so much of your life is driven by image rather than intelligence, let me put this factual data into a few simple visual references to illustrate just how stupid you are to have ever said this bit of silly nonsense in what was supposed to be an intelligent debate. In hindsight, given about five minutes of research on the Internet (and some diligent reading through of the two company’s yearly financial reports), you could have saved your self a whole lot of embarrassment.

So you proudly claim that Harley Davidson outsells all four of the Japanese manufacturers by 3 to 1? This last statement of yours clearly shows that you may have gone way past the core definition of “stupid” and that you’re now operating at a level that can best be described as “very low-function mental retard.”

Shown above, we have a representation of total annual motorcycle production in 2006 for both Harley Davidson and Honda.  This is not the total number of motorcycles produced by all companies in the world during this year, just those bikes produced by Honda and Harley Davidson.  This simple image will quickly show you how far behind Harley Davidson really has been left not just by the rest of the world, but how far it has been left behind by just one Japanese company in particular: Honda.

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Here we have a visual representation of the total annual production of Harley Davidson compared to the number of motorcycles that Honda sold in just North America.  That’s all the bikes that Harley PRODUCED in one year, fiscal year 2006, compared to just the number of bikes that Honda SOLD in North America (or just one part of the world) and ONLY in North America.  While we are including all of the world in Harley's sales, we’re ignoring the rest of the world in regard to Honda’s sales ... for right now.  What the chart above clearly shows is that for every Harley Davidson sold in the entire world in 2006, Honda sold 1.75 times that number of bikes in just North America.

Let’s do some more basic math, shall we? 

“But … wait!” you’ll probably stammer, in your utterly pathetic, sniveling defense.  “I didn’t mean that Harley outsold all of the Japanese in the world market …  I only meant that Harley Davidson outsold all of the Japanese in the American market by a three to one margin.”

But, if Harley sells one out of every two heavy weight motorcycles sold in America, why is it still number three in its own country of origin?  Oh, that's an easy question to answer and you even helped to answer it.  Remember when you said that "Harley with its limited line of products..."?  It is the very fact that Harley Davidson has a very limited product line that both gives it the strength it has and dooms it to the place it occupies.   Since Harley Davidson has such a limited line of products they allow the other foreign companies to outsell them year after year by making a variety of different motorcycles in different classes and different displacements.  Harley only makes heavy weight motorcycles (the only type they know how to make because it's the only kind of bike that their grandpappy ever taught them how to build), the other manufacturers make heavy weight, light weight, medium weight, sport bikes and a host of all other sorts of classes all of which are highly profitable and none of which Harley produces.  So, Harley charges ahead with big displacement, high dollar bikes and (barely) dominates that segment of the market (ignoring all the other segments) by a measly 4.5% advantage.  Let's show that "advantage" as a graphic, shall we?

You say that “Harley, with its limited line of products, outsells all four of the Jap bikes almost at a rate of 3 to 1.” 

Let’s think about that bit of ridiculous nonsense and use some good old fashioned math to really prove that you are seriously fucking retarded.  Remember, we’re talking heavy weight bikes, the 650cc and above class bikes.  In the 650cc class of bikes and below, the Japanese completely dominate Harley Davidson because HD has no bikes in that class.  You could honestly say that Japan dominates Harley in the light weight bikes category by a “thousands to zero” ratio meaning for every light weight bike that Harley Davidson does not produce, the Japanese manufacturers produce thousands, even hundreds of thousands.

The whole “Harley, with its limited line of product, outsells all four of the Jap bikes almost at a rate of 3 to 1” really irks me because it is so erroneous and unbelievable.  Only a clueless retard would ever say something like that but just in case ...  Let’s investigate this utterly asinine statement of yours further, shall we?

I believe you previously said that “I'm not going to go into an explanation because you are an IGNORANT LEO, as most are.”  The real reason why you couldn’t go into an explanation on anything which you threw out in this debate is that you had no numbers or facts to back up your ridiculous and ludicrous claims and that it was you who was ignorant of nearly everything that you claimed to have knowledge on.  Once you find the correct numbers and plug them in then simple math proves quite easily that you're the ignorant one, as most Harley owners are.  If there's any ignorance at all on display here then it is your ignorance, Hinol but then so much of Harley Davidson is not only composed of pure ignorance but revolves around it as well.

“None but a coward dares to boast that he has never known fear."
– Ferdinand Foch (1851-1929)

 

From:           J Hinol <sanebiker@yahoo.com>
To:                Me
Suject:         Just one more thing
Date:            September 20, 2007

If you're such a bad ass - why does it sometimes take a whole SWAT team to take down one person, when you could do it all by yourself?

Btw I ride a Harley because I want to and I usually ride alone. I don't wear black and I don't pretend to be a bad-ass. I don't get myself in situations where I need to be. When someone of your ilk tries to jump in my face I laugh. If they get too far into my personal space I still don't have to lift a finger because I know how to hit back through the legal system. A system far above you and your little bravado with a relatively powerless badge.. Most of your technological information is spot on, but your generalizations, at least in relation to me, are rather moronic and laughable. You describe the stereotypical Harley owner as if everyone in that genre shares the same disposition and intellectual deficiencies. But then again, I bet you profile by demographic on your day job too, which is a reflection of your own lack of intelligence. Seeing that you consider yourself superior, how do you handle the thought that there are powers above you? You're not the richest, the most intelligent, the best writer and the fact that you love generalizations exposes you as being less than the highly enlightened individual you attempt to portray yourself to be. You spout financial prowess, yet the Governor of my fair state came from nothing then went on to build a net worth in excess of $600 million AND rides a Harley. He also rides/rode without a license and the little powerless LEOs such as yourself couldn't touch him. You say you're fearless, but then why do you wear a gun and a bullet proof vest in the line of duty? You say you can stare down anyone. Go stare down people like the Manson group, the ICE MAN or anyone else a few bricks dangerously shy of a full stack, alone and unarmed. Truth is, your bravado is nothing. You scare 2 little punks in their 20s with no way to defend themselves yet you hide in Mississippi. I would love to witness your success in NYC on your own without your badge. Just you alone with no backup and no gun - just your mouth and opinions. It would be hilarious. you jump into your martial arts mode and they shoot your ass. Yep, you're a bad ass alright - to a bunch of kids. Why don't you go to your immediate supervisor and play adversary with him/her not stopping on your way to going over the top - as you stated, no one intimidates you. Heck, why not go and commit battery on the governor of your state. You fear nothing. Yep, your right - your intellect keeps you in check because your intellect understands the ramifications of those actions. You do have fears rational fears but none-the-less there's a chink in your armor - seeing that you stated you're fearless - you fear what any other rational person would. If you didn't fear the ramifications of such actions, you would probably kill the "rednecks" and "hillbillies" you so despise - from what I gather from reading your rant.

Despite your facade you aren't the fearless Harley hating SWAT member you pretend to be. One other fear I KNOW you have is that of Anarchy. You fear not being in control of the world around you. You fear people seeing beyond your tough guy facade to the point where you've devised a fantasy world inspired by a movie starring a Harley rider. You are indeed a funny and scared little man. You may be able to back up your tough guy image, but you've erected a wall between you and that which you fear by the lifestyle you've chosen. If you weren't afraid on at least some level, why take martial arts? Why wear a gun? Why obey the law?

While writing this my understanding of who you are just came into clear focus.

You're from Mississippi yet you worship a California governor that actually rides a Harley. Ah, maybe that's the crux of the matter. You're from a backwards / redneck state totally behind the times and your thinking is merely a reflection of your surroundings. You also have an inferiority complex or why else do you so vehemently defend your position on the dumbest of all things - that being what others choose to ride.You show a desperate need to be listened to. Could it be you fear being obsolete, ignored or insignificant? Your wife (if you're still married) will assure you you're not, but then the fact that you would even slightly think of asking her reflects your insecurities. You need her validation. You need the validation form your badge, your martial arts, your opinion on Harley's and your constant reminder to yourself that you're a bad ass / superior being. When in fact - if the facade and defenses were totally ripped away you really don't amount to a whole lot.

I could go on dismantling your facade as I'm sure the precinct shrink sure could (if you really are a LEO which I wouldn't doubt). If you really aren't a LEO that's just as pathetic.

Post and respond to this oh fearless one.
 

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To which I replied

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JHinol returns to look for the ass that I so aptly kicked up around his shoulders in our last encounter and proves once again my fervent belief that law enforcement should be a subscription only based civil service with the ability for the officer to instantly revoke your service at any time based solely on your attitude (and intelligence).

“If you're such a bad ass - why does it sometimes take a whole SWAT team to take down one person, when you could do it all by yourself?”

If you have to ask, you wouldn’t understand.

“Btw I ride a Harley because I want to and I usually ride alone.”

By the way, you ride a Harley because you are an uneducated, uncharismatic, uninteresting social mongotard with far more money than common sense and you usually ride alone because no one else wants to associate with an ignorant bovine twat like you.

“I don't wear black and I don't pretend to be a bad-ass. I don't get myself in situations where I need to be.”

Apparently, you can’t pretend to be intelligent or educated either.

In hindsight, it’s probably a very good thing that you don’t get yourself into tough situations because it’s rather obvious you wouldn’t understand what to do when and if you ever did. No, it’s best to leave the tough situations to the trained professionals. LEOs have a name for little whiney people like you; we laughingly refer to you and your kind as “job security.”

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